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Numeral strings: we need your help!
- To: John Cowan <cowan@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Raymond <eric@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Tiedemann <est@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>
- Subject: Numeral strings: we need your help!
- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <cbmvax!uunet!CTR.COLUMBIA.EDU!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!shoulson>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1992 09:34:00 EST
- In-Reply-To: nsn%MULLIAN.EE.MU.OZ.AU@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu's message of Sat, 25 Jan 1992 10:42:30 +1100
- Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" <cbmvax!uunet!CTR.COLUMBIA.EDU!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!shoulson>
- Sender: Lojban list <cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!LOJBAN>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1992 10:42:30 +1100
From: nsn%MULLIAN.EE.MU.OZ.AU@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu
I vote for your position on strings like repai.
That's kinda ambiguous, Nick. I take it you mean John's?
I also don't trust "repai" for 2pi. I could see sanctioning its use
informally and unofficially, among people who knew what you were talking
about, but as to its official definition, I think you'd want to require the
"pi'i". "repai" seems, at first glance, to be 20*pi, but maybe not...
I vote that {zei} be deallocated, and the space given to one of the currently
deallocated cmavo.
Don't think factorials are really important? Ok....
In contrast to your position on {repai}, though, and after initial
opposition,
I do support the oddity {ropa}, and in general the concatenation of
"adjective
PA" and "digit PA", for pragmatic reasons, even though {rolopa} is the
actual meaning (ropamei *is* handy; in fact, I came up with it independently;
it's a bad thing to have a backlog, friend). Similarly for du'e, mo'a etc.
As a whole Lojban's PA grammeme is an odd collection, with few analogies in
the world's languages. Forms like {ropa} are *not* obvious, and require
explanation in any presentation such as you're doing.
"ropa" meaning what? "All-of-one"? Or "One-which-is-all-there-is"? The
latter makes more sense to me, and.. oh, yes, I see, it conforms to
"rolopa". Fine.
~mark