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Re: responses to Jorge on fat gismu



mi pu cusku di'e

> > I think [ve cpedu] is not an attitude, but rather a "ve cusku"; you may
 request by
> > letter, or by "bacru"-ing, or by gesture.  "Form" is the more important
> > concept.
>
> If that is the case, wouldn't a {vecu'u} tag suffice? It doesn't seem to be
> crucial to the concept. lojbab seemed to have in mind an attitude, though:
>
> > > > Note also that cpedu has an x4 manner, whereas the manner is implicit in
> > > > pikci (respectful, supplicant)

Hmmm, I think you must be right.  Very well, I support the death of "ve cpedu"
as redundant to either "seci'o" or "vecu'u".  (Of course, a pure attitudinal
wouldn't be the right thing: "seci'o" often works to express the emotional
attitude with which something is done.)

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John Cowan              sharing account <lojbab@access.digex.net> for now
                e'osai ko sarji la lojban.