le'ala'ezo LIN co'a vomoi lo selkei peme'e lu spofu fonxa

[Don Wiggins <dwiggins@BFSEC.BT.CO.UK>]

coi.

I am starting a new round of Broken Phone.  It is longer (>two< whole
paragraphs) and more complicated than the preceding rounds.  I hope that
it will be OK.  Colin Fine has joined us and is next up to the ockey.  The
players are:

1.  Don          dwiggins@bfsec.bt.co.uk
      | lojban
2.  Colin        colin@kindness.demon.co.uk
      | English
3.  Iain         I.Alexander@bra0125.wins.icl.co.uk
      | lojban
4.  Ivan         IAD@BGEARN.BITNET
      | Russian
5.  Cyril        slobin@FEAST.FE.MSK.RU
      | lojban
6.  Dylan        dpt@MATH.BERKELEY.EDU
      | English
7.  Goran        topic@STUDENT.MATH.HR
      | lojban
8.  Paulo        pbarreto@unisys.com.br
      | Spanish
9.  Chris        cbogart@netcom.com
      | lojban
10.  And         ucleaar@ucl.ac.uk
      | English
      V

|
| le poi selcme lu spofu fonxa li'u ku'o selkei
|
| The following description is the game that I will call 'Broken Phone'.  This
| will distinguish it from 'Chinese Whispers' which works on the same
| principle but is the English-only.  This game allows intermediate languages
| that are not English.
|
| The initiator of the game selects a passage in English, a list of players
| and the intermediate languages.  The initiator translates the passage into
| lojban and sends it, along with the list of players and the languages, to the
| person next on the list.  All subsequent players translate the passage into
| the specified language and pass it along to the next player.  When the
| last player completes their translation we compare the outcome with the
| original.
|
| When one receives the text: translate the passage, send to the next person on
| the list, cc it to the initiator.  The initiator will give a summary at the
| end.
|
| And suggests allowing oneself about a week to do the translation.
| Unfortunately, this game is more fragile than Chinese Whispers in that if one
| person is unable to manage a translation the chain will be broken, but that
| is the price to be paid for being on the leading edge.
|
| I feel that having players translate into their native language, especially
| if they are only learning lojban, will be much easier than attempting a
| translation to English.  Hence, I will leave out Klingon for the time being,
| unless it is explicitly wanted (I think that going through Klingon is likely
| to have some very strange effects).  The task of translating non-native
| language into lojban is not as taxing as the reverse process.
|
| The players are:
|
| Name    Address                             Native        Fluent     Other
| ----    -------                             ------        ------     -----
| And     ucleaar@ucl.ac.uk                   English                  Italian
| Goran   topic@STUDENT.MATH.HR               Croatian      English
| Don     dwiggins@bfsec.bt.co.uk             English                  Spanish
| Chris   cbogart@netcom.com                  English                  Spanish
| Iain    I.Alexander@bra0125.wins.icl.co.uk  English
| Jorge   jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU               Spanish       English    French
|                                                           Esperanto
| Dylan   dpt@MATH.BERKELEY.EDU               English                  French
| Ivan    IAD@BGEARN.BITNET                   Bulgarian     English    German
|                                             Russian       Hungarian  French
|                                                                      Spanish
|                                                                      Croatian
| Cyril   slobin@FEAST.FE.MSK.RU              Russian       English    German
|                                                                      Esperanto
| Paulo   pbarreto@unisys.com.br              Portuguese    English    German
|                                                           Spanish    Italian
|                                                           Esperanto  French
| Nick    nsn@speech.language.unimelb.edu.au  English       Greek      French
|                                                           Esperanto  German
|                                                           Klingon    Latin
| Colin   colin@kindness.demon.co.uk          English       French     German
|                                                                      Esperanto
|                                                                      Norwegian
|                                                                      Swedish
|                                                                      Danish
|                                                                      Dutch
|                                                                      Russian
|                                                                      Welsh
|
| Everyone is assumed to be proficient in lojban.  One's native language is the
| most desirable target for translation, followed by the fluent languages.  The
| other languages are appropriate only as the source of translation into lojban.
|
| An example orders are:
|
| 1.  Don            dwiggins@bfsec.bt.co.uk
|       | lojban
| 2.  Paulo          pbarreto@unisys.com.br
|       | Portuguese
| 3.  Jorge          jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU
|       | lojban
| 4.  And            ucleaar@ucl.ac.uk
|       | English
| 5.  Dylan          dpt@MATH.BERKELEY.EDU
|       | lojban
| 6.  Cyril          slobin@FEAST.FE.MSK.RU
|       | Russian
| 7.  Ivan           IAD@BGEARN.BITNET
|       | lojban
| 8.  Iain           I.Alexander@bra0125.wins.icl.co.uk
|       | English
| 9.  Goran          topic@STUDENT.MATH.HR
|       | lojban
| 10. Chris          cbogart@netcom.com
|       | English
| 11. Nick           nsn@speech.language.unimelb.edu.au
|       | lojban
|       V
|
| If there is anyone who is interested in joining the chain, just send me your
| details (name; email address; native, fluent and other languages) and I will
| re-post this information to the list at regular intervals.
|
| .ni'o co'o
|
| Don Wiggins dwiggins@bfsec.bt.co.uk
|