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Re: mo'e
- Subject: Re: mo'e
- From: Logical Language Group <lojbab>
- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 14:10:32 -0500 (EST)
- Cc: lojbab@access.digex.net (Logical Language Group)
- In-Reply-To: <199503152346.AA10123@nfs1.digex.net> from "jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU" at Mar 15, 95 12:19:08 pm
>
> la lojbab cusku di'e
na go'i. i la djan. go'e
> > >Is {mo'e li ci} the same as {ci} as a quantifier? Or is it the number
> > >of numbers three, like supposedly {mo'e pa plise} is the number of apples
> > >in "one apple"?
> >
> > Yes!
>
> I hate that answer when I ask "A or something incompatible with A?"
Sorry. In my dialect the answer "Yes" to "A or B" means "A". I know this
causes miscommunications, so I try to suppress it, without total success.
(What's worse is that there are some dialects, I'm told, where "Yes" = "B".)
> Ok. In that case, {mo'e lo namcu} is "some number", and {mo'e ci namcu}
> is meaningless, because {mo'e} takes a referent of one number, not several
> referents.
Not meaningless. It means "three numbers" considered as a number.
> > The second is effectively true, because when we add 'one apple' and
> > 'one apple' to get 'two apples' we are in effect adding the number of apples
> > in 'one apple'.
>
> This doesn't make sense to me. If {mo'e li ci} is the number 3, then
> {mo'e lo plise} has to be a number of type apple, not the number of apples
> in {lo plise}.
"mo'e lo plise" is a number of type "apple", but the rules for addition of
such numbers aren't defined. By default, I would assume that adding numbers
of type "apple" is isomorphic to adding apples.
> What do you get when you add 'one number' and 'one number'? 'Two numbers' or
> 'one number'? (Please don't answer "yes" :)
You probably get "two numbers", but I am willing to accept that adding
"one cloud" and "one cloud" gives "one cloud". Typed numbers can escape
from the usual number system in various random ways.
--
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