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More Wind from the North
- To: John Cowan <cowan@snark.thyrsus.com>
- Subject: More Wind from the North
- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <cbmvax!uunet!ctr.columbia.edu!shoulson>
- Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1992 15:33:36 -0400
- In-Reply-To: I.Alexander.bra0122%OASIS.ICL.CO.UK@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU's message of Fri, 5 Jun 1992 13:30:31 BST
- Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" <cbmvax!uunet!ctr.columbia.edu!shoulson>
- Sender: Lojban list <cbmvax!uunet!pucc.princeton.edu!LOJBAN>
I've been giving some thought to this "jikau" business. Herein lieth some
small part of the trouble:
We have "kau" to flag "the point of interest" in a du'u abstraction used
with {djuno} or the like (loosely speaking). But what should we attach it
to, for indefinite situations?
We have been using the indefinite form of whatever we're talking about in
most cases, like {mi djuno ledu'u do co'ekau}=="I know what you are/do",
and not the questioning form, {mi djuno ledu'u do mokau}, which would
probably be something more like "What is it that I know about you?". So
far, that make sense?
Trouble is, in this situation, we're dealing with a connective, and I don't
think there *is* an indefinite connective. So Nick used "jikau". And Ivan
doesn't like it. And I'm none too keen on it myself.
Would slapping an indefinite-connective cmavo on the barbie help? Maybe,
but it seems like a band-aid. As Nick (?) said, the trouble comes from
trying to cram 2nd-order logic into a 1st-order logical language. Can
anything be done?
~mark