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Re: "New York"
- To: John Cowan <cowan@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Raymond <eric@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Tiedemann <est@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>
- Subject: Re: "New York"
- From: Jim Gillogly <cbmvax!uunet!RAND.ORG!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!jim>
- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1992 15:10:06 PST
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- In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 14 Feb 92 10:30:46 +1200. <9202132233.AA05268@rand.org>
- Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!rand.org!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!jim
- Sender: Lojban list <cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!LOJBAN>
> Chris Handley <CHandley%GANDALF.OTAGO.AC.NZ@CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU> writes:
> Jim writes
> >
> >I was annoyed back when China decided that English-speakers were
> >henceforth to write the name of their capital as Beijing instead of
> >...
> >language. If even London can get transformed to Londres, why not
> >everything?
> >
> Nonsense! This is a carry over from the Imperial view that English
> speakers had of the world in the 19th Century - if someone does not
> understand, just talk louder. Germans do not know where Munich is,
Nonsense yourself! Nothing to do with how important I and other
anglophones (or esperantophones or lojbanophones) think English (or
Esperanto or lojban) is, but rather an assertion that the speakers of a
language have the right to decide what *they* call things. Naturally I
wouldn't expect a German to know what I meant when I said Munich in
English (if I were speaking German I'd use the German name), *but* neither
would I expect a Frenchman to try to wrap his tongue or syntax around
London instead of Londres. Nothing imperialistic there...
> recognise Pittsbr@. It goes further - is my former country South
> Africa or Azania, is my present country New Zealand or Aotearoa?
Good question -- let's decide!
Tch:uss...
Jim Gillogly