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More comments on old material
- To: John Cowan <cowan@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Raymond <eric@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Tiedemann <est@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>
- Subject: More comments on old material
- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <cbmvax!uunet!CTR.COLUMBIA.EDU!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!shoulson>
- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 08:54:25 EST
- In-Reply-To: CJ FINE's message of Mon, 13 Jan 1992 13:38:15 GMT
- Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" <cbmvax!uunet!CTR.COLUMBIA.EDU!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!shoulson>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 13:38:15 GMT
From: CJ FINE <C.J.Fine%BRADFORD.AC.UK@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu>
X-To: Bob Le Chevalier <lojbab@grebyn.com>
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2. Intersections and goi.
Your answer to Jack contains ".i .a'o ko'a goi ri .e ra li'o".
Athelstan writes (p.14) "ko'a goi ge leko'u speni gi leko'u re citno
bruna".
These seem to entail that "ko'a du ri .ije ko'a du ra" or in the other
case "ko'a du le speni po ko'u .ije ko'a du le citno bruna po ko'u".
This is clearly false.
I think that the problem here is that ".e" would be better replaced by
"jo'u". What I wonder is, how many other places are we using ".e"
inappropriately?
Definitely. Using .e as above gives me entirely the wrong picture: ko'a
goi la bil. .e la xaris. implies that ko'a is Bill and also Harry, and
probably that Bill therefore is also Harry. The only thing I'd differ with
you on is that to indicate that ko'a is the group of Bill and Harry, I'd
use "joi", not "jo'u". After all, in this situation we *are* mixing them
to form a team, a single unit comprised of the both of them, so "joi" makes
more sense.
~mark